“It is never a good idea to run from stuff. It’s a better idea to runs towards things.” – Joe Dehnert

Hey everyone! Welcome to episode eleven of The Modern-Day Superhero Show! In this episode, i sat down with Joseph (Joe) Dehnert, owner of Upstream Endeavors, LLC, a company that provides guided fly-fishing and educational tours in western North Carolina, and senior wilderness therapy field guide at Four Circles Recovery Center, a primary rehabilitation center also in western North Carolina.

This was my favorite interview thus far – it is more or less a fun yet profound conversation between two jovial friends. Joe is charismatic, an eloquent speaker, and an incredibly passionate teacher and student. In this episode, Joe shares how losing his father and dog inspired him to traverse a new path in life (literally), tools he has utilized to cultivate patience and overcome obstacles, how sharing love can help anyone find their purpose in life, and much more!


  • 06:28 – If Joe could put me in a sleeping bag with any one thing, what would it be?
  • 07:36 – Why Joe picked up over 1,000 pounds of garbage while hiking the entirety of the Appalachian Trail
  • 12:08 – How Joe and his buds properly disposed of a 70 pound queen-sized mattress on their AT trip
  • 15:51 – The inspiration behind Joe’s fly-fishing business
  • 20:30 – How Joe came up with the name of his business
  • 22:20 – The importance of fisherman for river ecology
  • 24:15 – How Joe overcomes obstacles in life
  • 25:50 – How to overcome the fear of failure with the help of friends and family
  • 27:15 – The importance of patience and time for creating paradigm shifts in ways of thinking
  • 32:55 – How to find purpose in life

Joe’s Code

  • There is wisdom in a multitude of council
  • Show me your friends and I can show you your future
  • I have surrounded myself with people I aspire to be

Quotes from Episode

“It’s never a good idea to run from stuff. Its a better idea to runs towards things.”

“The mantra of that entire trail was to inspire a greater sense of environmental stewardship on our trails and in our communities by raising awareness of the litter conditions on America’s trails.”

“My truth is calm, serene thought processes when I’m on the river.”

“I think the underlying reason for living in most people is to express the love we’ve been shown or have not been shown.”

“The most difficult things I’ve done have felt the most rewarding.”

“Wanting to reciprocate the grace you’ve been show, is by definition, the best form of motivation you can have.”


“The best way to get in touch with me is to go out on the river.”

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